Robert Lunte

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I chopped on a new live version of "CHILD IN TIME"... THIS IS VERSION 3. I THINK YOU WILL LIKE THE WHISTLE SCREAMS HERE. https://thevocaliststudio.box.com/s/ebf8ef7460f93ccbeca8 THOUGHT I Would step up and share. Let me know if you have any questions about techniques related to singing this tune. Hope this helps...

Hi Guys... I worked on a new Live take of 'Child In Time' today... hope you like it. It features some pretty damn good whistle screams,... Let me know what you think... https://thevocaliststudio.box.com/s/ebf8ef7460f93ccbeca8 Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.

Jugulator, I ran a search and found your forum, cool. I just completed a new live take of 'Child in Time'... I think you guys might like the whistle notes in here... https://thevocaliststudio.box.com/s/ebf8ef7460f93ccbeca8

Cool, love those those swedish students... they like to sing high notes... Give me a call when your ready to get serious... and can afford some sesh.

Hey, thanks for the feedback. I understand, the amplification could seem to make it sound bigger then it actually is... is that what you mean? If I could be completely honest with you? The amplification really doesn't do anything but amplify and already existing, powerful head voice phonation. If I were to remove the microphone, it actually wouldn't seem much different, maybe a little less reverb or something, but it would sound pretty much the same. I can just as easily do these without amplification and have no problem with that, maybe Ill do a few that way. I just choose not to simply because its just not as fun... I don't like a flat signal, it snuffs all the fun out of singing for me. The only effects on this is just a pinch of reverb, there is no doubling, pitch correction or things you would expect to not be there for a vocal technique demonstration. Also note, in this video, because I am demonstrating these onsets, I want to sound full and boomy ... if you watch the 'lift up / pull back' video I posted on youtube and here about a week ago, you will see a whole different volume level because Im demonstrating a different concept. Hope you can become a client one day... I will help you to sing amazing... give it a shot... Gab is a teacher of TVS and is a student of mine, didn't seem to hurt him any...

Cool Ron... Im actually going to have my bike painted primer grey with weatherized clear coat. Since i don't have a garage to protect a fancy pants paint job, I'm going for more the 'rat bike' look... and going for a glossy , primer grey with a sun bleached red frame from the previous paint job... i think its going to be bad ass looking , we'll see...

Jonpall, its one of 6 new classifications of specialized onsets I've developed to trouble-shoot head voice problems and build strength and coordination. Im developing an educational blog soon on it and will share it with the community here. Here is the video, this is a bit of a sneak preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE5qKzPMprk Today I added Gab's ideas to the benefits column of an matrix I have created for these onsets, in our book at TVS. It resides under the list of benefits for the "wind & release" onset. hope this helps...

Ya, this is good Gab. I was thinking on my bike this morning, regarding this discussion, "... so, the wind & release onset is favorable for ventricular fold (fvf) activation.., thus, is favorable for vocal distortion".... Bro, Im updating the "6 specialized onsets for head voice development" in the book with this, under the category for 'wind & release' onsets... very cool Gab, bring it on brother... ! :cool:

Nice response Gab. One thing I noticed on this was that Gab indicated that he had worked on phonating "Hey" onsets, to activate the ventricular folds (FVF). Onsets like this are called, "wind & release" onsets at TVS and they have multiple applications in training. They insure that you good heady placements, help activate the FVF and the other benefit of 'wind & release' onsets is... they are the best onsets to engage respiration and good Appoggio support, which I 'hear' Gab keep referring to in his responses. Gab is saying, you need a lot of great respiration, enough to rattle the FVF. This is achieved with the four elements of Appoggio, now in the latest update of "The Four Pillars of Singing"; 1). Extrinsic Anchoring 2). Open Throat Tongue Position 3). Wind & Release Onsets 4). Engage the intercostals or 'core' musculature (pushy down and outty) Nice work Gab... your steps described here can be refined and we can iron out the talk-track a bit to include it into our TVS distortion techniques. Wind & Release onsets on "heys" and "huhs", with proper Appoggio respiratory support? Add to that, strong interarytenoids and vocalis.... built with 'contract & release' & 'attack & release' onsets... good discussion... pieces of the puzzle beginning to fit...

I wanted to jump in here and point something out... above I had made the point that some people can distort a bit more intuitively or easier then other, which is a valid point... however, Gabriele did a nice job of reminding us that you can train it as well. As he said, he used to be all clean and he had to work on this to make it work and build the strength, endurance and muscle memory for vocal distortion... so there is hope for those of us that need to train it...

Great response Gab... nice work... I know these guys appreciate it. In some sense, I think what Gab is saying is, if you work on the voice, even distortion, (assuming that it is relatively healthier distortion created by noise in the vocal tract and not grinding), the voice can become resilient. You can develop a new 'attractor state'... simply put, you develop the strength and endurance for it so that you can do it more often and more consistently. Practice brings it on and keeps it consistent.... just like anything else you work on with your voice. Always be careful with distortion. Learn when to walk away and let it rest. Short spurts of it early on is probably prudent. Cool, thanks bro... good luck on your tour in Russia, the TVS teachers will miss you at the Cagliari get together and the other one we are doing in Germany... we love ya, keep going and I'm always here for you. Bro :cool:

Guys... One thing I need to point out that I have pointed out before on this forum... more then clean notes, more then the ability to bridge, maybe above all other components we train to calibrate and tune in the TVS phonation package... the thing that I have found as a voice coach that is across the board or varies widely from person to person, is their ability to distort, when any individual singer begins to distort and how intuitive it is. The ability to distort is a combination of training and physiology. Take 10 students and all 10 can learn to bridge and connect eventually... take distortion and the results are less consistent. Some people can't distort. Some people, when they distort, their vocal folds close... others like me can distort, but train it to make it work for me... and yet still others, like Gabriele, distortion comes a little bit more intuitively... Im not making excuses, but Gabriele has a voice that distorts more intuitive then most people, and has had great training, the result is Gabriele is real good at getting that sound and he practices that sound a lot in his band. It has become his "attractor state" in many ways. Gabriele can also sing clean as well... but I know he has been working on getting his distortion to be healtheir and less fatiguing. I know because he has worked on it with me... In any case... the question to ask Gabriele is what has been his journey of exploration and experimentation on getting HIS distortion to work for him. What is he doing to make his distortion less fatiguing? What techniques or ideas has he been working on to get a good balance between burning out and being able to do it all night long? This is what I worked on with him for a while, but its been about a year, so Im sure he can update us all on his 'relationship' with distortion. I would like to hear from him too... since we haven't train together for about a year. When we did train together, we worked on activating distortion in 'deeper' or headier positions, instead of more belty/forward positions to see if we could get distortion, but place it in a less fatiguing position... But we should hear from Gabriele on that...

Im sure he would enjoy coming in here... Ill let him know... ! Gab, the guys want to chat with you about your singing and techniques your using...

TVS Certified Instructor, Gabriele Gozzi! LISTEN TO THIS GREAT DEMONSTRATION OF HOW TO SING SUPER HIGH, DISTORTED NOTES.

Of course they do... the YouTube stuff is just 'teaser' content... anyone that thinks they can train from free content on the internet alone is just being cheap and fooling themselves.

Once you own the content you can burn your own dvds if you want to... its a lot of information though, it might just be easier to get the hard copy with the discs.

... make sure you are pounding on that "... Building your Foundation" video....

Ok Owen, thanks for clarifying that point for people... But you make a good point about internet teaser content... a lot of people try to go the 'cheap' route and think they are going to learn to sing from just youtube teaser content that me and my colleagues produce... its just silly. That content is there to pique your interest and say 'hello, here we are... check us out".. but it is NOT voice training. There is no short-cut and there are no "secrets to singing"... Voice training, if you are going to get serious, means you train... and that means you get a good product and a good teacher and make an investment in yourself. If you are just trying to get better by going with free, promo stuff on the internet, then your really not serious enough to do this... that is just the truth. If you try to go 'cheap' on this, you'll get what you paid for, "0"... or not much to work with... and a LOT of confusion because you'll be watching 15 different teachers talking about 37 different things... its just a mess on YouTube... make a commitment to one good program and teacher and dig in.

Glad you are happy with it Halcyon!

Nice.. welcome Jay!!! Im excited to work with you! Did you get some internet lessons? Forgive me, I dont know which customer you are. I'm not trying to upsell you here, but if you can get in front of me for at least 3-6 lessons, it makes ALL the difference so you get off to a good start... I'm sure Owen can testify to that... Its very interesting to me to see the comments on the product from people like Owen that have used other products... since I really don't spend time seriously chopping on other people's products. I always safely concluded that what I do is pretty good... but if I had to point one thing out that I have kinda dedicated my life to and everything seems to kind of come back to this theme, it is... techniques for bridging the registers and head voice development. Owen is right about that... it's a lot about that... It's not that Im shallow or don't know other stuff... its just that... if you learn to bridge and connect and get your game on with your head voice... you pretty much have won about 85% of the battle... great vocal training SHOULD be mostly about building strength and coordination for bridging registers and sustaining powerful phonations in the head voice. if your not training that and not getting better at that in your current training system or program, run like hell... because I think your wasting your time... that is just my opinion. Bridging and Head voice work is what it has always been about for me, even back in the Maestro Kyle days... Im not sure its worth the effort and expense if your not focusing on that primarily. Out of this attitude for 10 years, has developed specific techniques, ideas about training and original vocal workouts to serve that purpose.

Oh, thanks for sharing Kiran! That's great that you reach out and share with these guys your experience with TVS. It has been a pleasure working with you Kiran. Your voice has taken to the techniques very well actually and when I watch you, I get the sense that you are going to front a band one day and do something cool with it... it just seems obvious. This is good for you. Yes folks, I will be offering four Master Classes and private lessons in November and December in Europe for my 17th, "Training Vocal Athletes" Master Class tour. Here is a link that can give you some details on that. Would love to see some of you there. http://thevocaliststudioworkshop.com/tvs-master-class-tour-2012/

I just wanted to let you guys know and anyone that may come across this thread, that I will not be offering the $99 Pillars, Xmas special this year. I apologize ahead of time, but under the circumstances, I now have to take that off the table. It's DOA this year. "Loose lips, sink ships", sorry...

Ok, well... you have three options, click here: http://www.thevocaliststudiostore.com/THE-FOUR-PILLARS-OF-SINGING-20_c_34.html 1). the hard copy 2). the digital download (save about $40) or 3). purchase the hard copy or digital download + 3 private lessons with me over the internet. This package is the best value, you save about $100. I look forward to helping you and maybe you can come to one of the master classes in November or December.

Hello... the best thing you can do is purchase a copy of 'The Four Pillars of Singing 2.0" here: www.thevocaliststudiostore.com and I will be in Germany and Italy in November and December doing a Master Class and giving private lessons... here is the information. http://thevocaliststudioworkshop.com/tvs-master-class-tour-2012/ Come! I can help you... I don't have any teachers in Morocco at the moment.