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    Bono reacted to ronws in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    What? All this grief. Well, go ahead and call me an uncultured redneck. I thought it was just fine. Then, again, I don't have a need to prove myself to be an expert. I am just a guy who spends hard-earned money on good music. And I would buy this.
     
    And I live in a small town where people would love it if someone could sing this as well as you did, bono, in their church. No, I don't go to church but I appreciate a well done performance. Then, again, what do I know? I prefer Bon Scott to Brian Johnson with no offense meant to Brian. 
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    Bono reacted to Chris Miyai in Painted on my heart (Gone in 60 seconds OST)   
    Angelina Jolie, would you marry me?
     

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    Bono reacted to BlackieJane in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    Really beautiful voice. You have a great vibrato and the accent is charming. I remember one of my marketing professors telling us that a lot of people see their accent as a disadvantage, but it doesn't have to be. If you sound confident, the accent will actually make people listen to you actively and more carefully. I really like your voice. I hope you are getting out there and sharing it with people who pay you money, so you can make a living and keep focusing on your music. You have the potential to be a really huge voice once you carve out your path.
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    Bono reacted to KillerKu in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    I sing pretty comfortably in the E4 to G4 range with various styles (creaking rasp, chesty shouting, super twangy and witchy, falsetto, extremely heady, crying stuff (guess it's closer to a mix voice). So I've hit G4s in like maybe 20 different ways now.
     
    If an approach works for a singer, it works. I'm the type of person that separates efficiency from 'good or bad' technique. I don't believe there is a 'correct' way to sing anything. Correct for opera, folk, jazz, punk, roots rock, pop, soul, smooth RnB, modern pop, country, and metal, are all already different in the public's mind, so correct for each singer who may not even be singing one of these genres is a pretty huge stretch.
     
    Some singing schools have a 'sound ideal' and some don't. SLS works for you so you should use it. But have you looked into some other vocal study programs intellectually as a curiosity?  Even the one that seemed the least emphasized on sound ideals (Complete Vocal Technique) has had to revise things, cause they were too limited in the amount of vocal modes the voice could produce and had to create subdivisions in modes between their origin concepts. The voice could do too much.
     
    Rob is constantly working on his TVS stuff from the sounds of it. Puts huge work into staying up to date for singers. It's a really broad instrument. Just because you or I might not know how to make a sound comfortably ourselves, doesn't mean someone else doesn't have a technique that can create this sound comfortably or healthily. Sometimes we simply can't do it cause we ourselves didn't learn the technique, other times it really is uncomfortable and feels like crap in their body.
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    Bono reacted to Sexy Beast in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    KillerKu, if he sings this way by choice but at the same time knows how to sing it "correctly" we are fine. In that case it is a stylistic choice. But I'm not sure this is the case.
     
    A lot of singers sing with bad technique and some people call it style. In my opinion it is still bad technique... Bono, I'm not saying you have bad technique btw
     
    If he was to sing a song that lies more heavily in the E4-G4 range with that same approach it would not feel comfortable to him and not sound good to most people.
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    Bono reacted to KillerKu in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    I don't really understand either/or situations with voice. A lot of my singers don't really modify vowels much at all.
     
    Most support fairly well, but not all do. Neil Young might do a good version of this song with a wavering falsetto.  Bruce Springsteen probably might do a good one with a pulled chest sound. A young Bowie might use a very slightly strained nasal sound during the Ziggy era. Old Bowie might use a lower larynx, kind of woofy sound with mad vibrato and wail up to it.
     
    I do believe I understand the suggestion, but 'necessity' is a pretty strong concept. Not really sure what Bono wants. He's a cool guy, with a cool voice. I don't know if he wants things to be one way or another so if it's a detail like how he hits a note, I'd figure he knows more than I do. It probably could be done more efficiently with less effort the way you're describing though.
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    Bono reacted to Sexy Beast in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    Just singing technique really... He went for a kind of "unsupported shout" on the G4s, so more belt type vowels but without the necessary energy/body engagement. You need to make a choice: belt it and really go for it or sing them in more of a mixed quality. Makes sense?
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    Bono reacted to KillerKu in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    I would have never picked this up in a million years. Is this the Speech Level Singing stuff? You two in the secret club. Laryngeal control, no shout. I liked it Bono.
     
    For my tastes, I might have preferred even more shout, so I dunno what to say on a technical level as it sounded pretty controlled. But I'm not about to say 'stop controlling your voice so much' as singing advice on a singing forum.
     
    How does it feel in your body? I guess that's the question, if you were to follow Sexy Beast's advice and compare it to what it felt like to sing? What did it sound like to you? Very interesting.
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    Bono got a reaction from KillerKu in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    Hey guys, this is my first attempt to this beautiful gospel song.
     
    Please let me know what do you think
     
    thank you!
     
     
    https://soundcloud.com/matias-azar-1/amazing-grace-my-chains-are-gone-cover
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    Bono reacted to Sexy Beast in Amazing Grace (My chains are gone)   
    Hey Bono!
     
    Your vowels start to go wide and the larynx too high in your 1st passage (top notes in the song). You are making it but the tone becomes strained and shouty. You loose the nice warm tone you have in your lower range which I like. A couple of tweaks and this cover will be very good
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    Bono reacted to Chris Miyai in Norah Jones - Come Away With Me   
    Hey Bubbly, good potencial there.   Try to realize how to sing is as a mental trip: forget about how you use your voice for speaking, try to be someone else emerged in the tune atmosphere, to be a character with another point of view about song's story. You did it better in 2:26s of the updated version! Go this way and I'm pretty sure you'll can sing even nicer.   
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    Bono reacted to ronws in Say something - A big world   
    I liked it. Don't have anything to be picky about.
     
    Your pic on soundcloud reminds me of a young Jon Bon Jovi.
     
    In fact, I bet you could do a good cover of "Midnight in Chelsea."
     
    Here, is a bit older but his voice is cleaner and you kind of sound similar.
     

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    Bono reacted to Sexy Beast in Say something - A big world   
    It's funny how you can often tell an sls singer from a non sls one
     
    Yes I did take some lessons.
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    Bono got a reaction from BlackieJane in Black Coffee - Peggy Lee Cover. Need some advice   
    Blackiejane, only a thing to say: what a beautiful voice... keep singing forever... 
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    Bono got a reaction from KillerKu in Black Coffee - Peggy Lee Cover. Need some advice   
    Blackiejane, only a thing to say: what a beautiful voice... keep singing forever... 
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    Bono reacted to KillerKu in Black Coffee - Peggy Lee Cover. Need some advice   
    Ok... Starting off here. I'm not pro vocal coach. And if this suggestion sucks, throw it away.
     
    I'm hesitant to touch that voice that I admire in any way. Having you here is like having a classic radio station. But I have a suspicion both issues might be related to your vocal style on both parts. Breathier sounds in general dry the throat quicker by blowing more 'air' across the area. Think about other wet surfaces, how blowing air can dry them a bit. The voice is similar, breathier voices are in generally more tiring and drying.
     
    A breathier vocal style can also lower the break point where you might transition to a falsetto ish (yes women have it too!) due to excess pressure from breath and not enough closure in the vocal folds. You mentioned in another thread envying another singer's high notes, and as far as I'm aware the voice will hit a wall at some point where range is limited due to breathiness for these reasons. So when we include breathy qualities, we always sacrifice some range in favor of style.
     
    So my first suggestion is to please don't stop singing with the sexy, sultry, breathy tone, (pretty please?) and abandon it in favor of squealing high notes once you learn the trick. I really like your voice. But maybe look into experimenting with less breathy phonations that you might be able to work into your style as well, and learn how to control the amount of air a bit in your voice? 
     
    The most efficient exercise I know of for quickly finding a less breathy phonation is to say a vowel very very very very quickly. Like as briefly as you possibly can. 'O' instead of 'oh.' Turbo quick, quicker than you think you can do. Most people will automatically make a less breathy sound. The most important thing is you need to make sure the phonation still feels relaxed and comfortable as you can push the voice too far and 'press' the phonation. You want a comfortable tone that works well for you.
     
    Anyway, from a really short vowel you can gradually extend that sound out. If you do that onset exercise, you might hear a little tic, (glottal action, you can hear this in like country and pop singers sometimes when they onset their vowels) which in the long term is probably not desirable for your style. So you'll likely want to include an invisible, very tiny H (so small as to be almost not there) to soften and cushion that sound.
     
    Basically, that's the best I can do for you as 'random singing guy.' You should probably get a great teacher if you don't already have one since you are starting a professional journey, a professional to keep you healthy and spot check you would be really valuable. I'm not gonna be a pro and I'm fairly poor, so I'm gonna sing as an amateur as carefully as I can. I make sure I never go hoarse and my goal is to have improvement in my voice every time I sing.
     
    But you're already going pro with gigs! So you need to take extra care of your pro instrument. And thanks for sharing, I love it, including the crack. They are endearing whether you like them or not.
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    Bono got a reaction from KillerKu in Children of the Sun cover   
    Hey Ron! you put me in a very difficult situation because my english is no really good to explain all the way I would like to, so I`ll try to be as clear as I can... I did not mean you sounds bad or you have a problem at all neither you should sing more manly!!! I though that maybe you are using just some part of your voice, your head voice which I think you do it great and compared you with a great argentinian singer, if it was the only voice you have... for me is enough!! and should be for you too!! because you can do many things... But if it were that you have some hidden low notes I thought it also would be great for you to discover and develop!! 
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    Bono got a reaction from ronws in Children of the Sun cover   
    Ron, first of all wanted to apologize for delaying my response, not want you to think I was doing the mysterious. The true is my English is not very good and I have to help me with google translator that neither is so good   I want you to know I'm not a professional voice, I'm a lawyer who loves music, and like many here I am studying voice, to educate myself, so I have always more questions than answers about the voice.   That said, my views are very subjective and unscientific.   I want to tell you a story. I know someone very close, a very nice person like you. He started taking singing lessons a couple of years ago, classical singing lessons, opera ago. At first he was treated by his teacher as a light tenor, because its timbre to speak was really high. Soon, their vocalizations its low register began to develop a lot. This caught the attention of the teacher who recommended him to have a consultation with an audiologist. The audiologist told him that indeed he was hiding his true voice, of course unconsciously. He also said it was very common in nice people, they usually speak in his highest voice because that sound more friendly. He proposed a voice treatment consisting on some speech excercises. He also recommended doing therapy with a psychologist. This person, to this day continues to grapple with this problem, it is not easy for him to take over his low and intimidating voice, he being so kind and friendly. He discovered to be a spinto tenor instead of a very light tenor, he learned to use more of his low voice, but today is still hard for him not raising his voice to a really high zone when he speak.   This story, in addition to what I hear when you sing, makes me think that maybe you'll pass the same, and that is why I recommend a consultation with a phonoaudiologist.   I hope I have not put my finger on a wound. I´m just trying to help, giving my honest opinion based on what a hear.
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    Bono got a reaction from KillerKu in Children of the Sun cover   
    Ron, first of all wanted to apologize for delaying my response, not want you to think I was doing the mysterious. The true is my English is not very good and I have to help me with google translator that neither is so good   I want you to know I'm not a professional voice, I'm a lawyer who loves music, and like many here I am studying voice, to educate myself, so I have always more questions than answers about the voice.   That said, my views are very subjective and unscientific.   I want to tell you a story. I know someone very close, a very nice person like you. He started taking singing lessons a couple of years ago, classical singing lessons, opera ago. At first he was treated by his teacher as a light tenor, because its timbre to speak was really high. Soon, their vocalizations its low register began to develop a lot. This caught the attention of the teacher who recommended him to have a consultation with an audiologist. The audiologist told him that indeed he was hiding his true voice, of course unconsciously. He also said it was very common in nice people, they usually speak in his highest voice because that sound more friendly. He proposed a voice treatment consisting on some speech excercises. He also recommended doing therapy with a psychologist. This person, to this day continues to grapple with this problem, it is not easy for him to take over his low and intimidating voice, he being so kind and friendly. He discovered to be a spinto tenor instead of a very light tenor, he learned to use more of his low voice, but today is still hard for him not raising his voice to a really high zone when he speak.   This story, in addition to what I hear when you sing, makes me think that maybe you'll pass the same, and that is why I recommend a consultation with a phonoaudiologist.   I hope I have not put my finger on a wound. I´m just trying to help, giving my honest opinion based on what a hear.
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    Bono reacted to ronws in Cyber Agent Saviour - Original Prog Rock   
    Yeah, it's hard to listen when the page says the link has been removed.
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    Bono reacted to BlackieJane in Do You Know What It Means To Miss New Orleans - Louis Armstrong/Billie Holiday Cover   
    Click the link and have a listen! Please 😄



    I'm also trying to figure out a better mic for my voice. I felt like this mic sounded a bit too "dead". Any suggestions?

    Thanks for listening
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    Bono reacted to KillerKu in Say something - A big world   
    I think a longer you might sell more records, but I personally felt those clipped yous had artistic value. To me it symbolized nearly giving up on whoever 'you' was, almost mid sentence. Strangely enough, after checking this (original) version: it was done similar.
     

     
    So maybe Christina Aguilera and I do have something in common aside from loving Nina Simone and Amy Winehouse after all. I would have expected her to drag that note into infinity, hahaha.
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    Bono got a reaction from KillerKu in Say something - A big world   
    Hey guys, after some oldies I decided to record something newer
     
    Please let me know what do you think!
     

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    Bono got a reaction from ronaldhutasuhut in Say something - A big world   
    Hey guys, after some oldies I decided to record something newer
     
    Please let me know what do you think!
     

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    Bono got a reaction from Bay_Harbor_Butcher in Titanium by David Guetta & Sia (Cover)   
    Very well done, Bay! I love it! Happy new year  
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