Felipe Carvalho

Im not much of a fan of theater songs, but this one has a very beautiful melody line and points that call for a bit more of punch (and that I can just let go and sing all out) very fun study!
https://app.box.com/s/0l8idxrzlyh9kb3q09igptoz5ztbglot
Let me know how it sounds peeps

Im not much of a fan of theater songs, but this one has a very beautiful melody line and points that call for a bit more of punch (and that I can just let go and sing all out) very fun study!
https://app.box.com/s/0l8idxrzlyh9kb3q09igptoz5ztbglot
Let me know how it sounds peeps

Im not much of a fan of theater songs, but this one has a very beautiful melody line and points that call for a bit more of punch (and that I can just let go and sing all out) very fun study!
https://app.box.com/s/0l8idxrzlyh9kb3q09igptoz5ztbglot
Let me know how it sounds peeps

Another challenge that people wanted to do, The Nationals Challenge! In this challenge, we will sing songs about our countries and songs about the places within. It's great for people to sing their national anthems but lets challenge ourselves and not just select short songs.

I like it bro, voice relaxed, secure delivery, that's it, singing :). Very pleasant to listen and cool interpretation.

Great song that has been on my to-do list for a while, hope you like it, let me know how it sounds if you can.
https://app.box.com/s/63y1ea0bnv3gtxrlicvdbyitu2u56pua
Thanks in advance!!
Felipe

@ronws thank you! Dio to me is the ultimate reference on how to sing powerfully. Really appreciate your words
@Gneetapp haha thank you so much for the support bro.

haha wait @JonJon I think I understand you now, and yes you are right its different.
I was under the impression you were saying I was pronouncing the word "I" incorrectly, as if the word itself had a different pronunciation. What you are describing are interpretation resources, and sometimes accents, I understand that and you are dead on, it makes a huge difference on the interpretation.
This song and interpretation are with me for a while, so I don't quite remember how I planned this, but there are some differences indeed, some on purpose, some not (this one you mentioned I am almost sure its not haha). The chorus is geared much more towards the original line, I remember that.
Thank you for taking your time and explaining what you meant, and for the careful listening, its very useful .

Well, in the USA, the word "I" can be pronounced at least 2 different ways. Probably more. Im in the "south" so we hardly ever use a diphthong "eye" for the word "I".  So if I say "I am tired", both the "I" and the "tired" are only 1 syllable....they DONT have the gliding diphthong sound "eYE".
 
So "I" and "eye" dont have to be homophones
in the south if we say "i'm"...it's 'im' not "eyem"
 
Its a type of laziness where we dont go to the trouble to fully pronounce a word. So we just say "I" with the mouth wide open as opposed to the diphthong which requires more movement etc
In the same way, a person from up in the mountains would say a word like "our" as "ire" with the mouth wide open
 
haha, its hard to explain in text. if we say "mine" it wont sound anything like "mayan"...whereas if we say "mayan calender" it may come out more like "mine calender" lol
 
So a lot of times that applies to rock and roll where the singers dont want to sound "correct" or "intellectual" lol. Seriously. If I hear really good annunciation I think of Bruce Dickinson or maybe Geoff Tate style metal...an almost operatic style.    (style?? is it "stile" or "sti-uhll" lol)
Rock pretty much CAME from the south and from southern blues so a lot of that blues/black/country slang and lazy pronunciation stuck.
 
At least as I hear it, on the DP bridge its "I" know "I" must remain etc....not "eye know eye must remain"
 
pretty clear example here. 'I wanna rock and roll'....not "eye wanna".  also check "while" and "style"...no diphthong
 
or this one. about a hundred "I"s..but not a single "eye"
 
HAHA!! Actually Felipe....I got to thinking about "Holy Diver". Is it "diver" or "deye-ver" and sure enough Dio says something like "deye-vuh" and I checked your cover and you did it just like Dio. But then on "oh dont you see what I mean" Dio just says "I" (or actually it sounds like what ah mean").....and when you sing that line you do it like Dio lol. You do "what I mean" and not "what eye mean"
 
So you ALREADY use both (non homophone) "I" and "eye" lol
 
if you go thru many rock songs id say the "I" is used 10 times for every 1 "eye"
 
Beatles rocking the 'correct' "eye love her"
 
Good one here. Not only does Sammy say "I" cant drive 55....he actually pronounces the word 'look me in the EYE" as "look me in the I" lol!
 
 
Same thing for many words in rock. "mii mii mii" not "meye meye meye"
 
 
and again, im not saying there is any right or wrong in rock n roll lol. I just pointed that out in the DP song because I have heard that song 9 million times and the 'eye' stood out a bit to me
 
Peace, JJ

Hi gnee!
I think there are many things working well, and some very simple mistakes that are taking away quality.
- You are oversinging it. Listen to the original and you will notice there are a lot more pauses, right on the begining, "Here"... "I AM"... , specially on I Am, don't sustain so much. This breakes the rhythm flow of the song.
- Your phrasing is in odds with the beat. Listen to the pattern of the snare on the song, right from the start. You will notice there is an accent first on the downbeat, and then the snare accents on the upbeat. Pretty much the whole song goes by this idea. On "I AM" you are close to it, but the accent didnt work so well, when you are on "SHE is sound". You are already drifting. Its a 4/4 but its irregular, common kind of irregular, but still irregular.
These two little things make a huge difference, really!
Then the points of the higher areas. When you do "high" the Ah is sounding good, perhaps relax more if you can. The higher phrases are on the midway between going into head voice, and belting, and that's the problem. Either you open it and blast it out, or, round more the vowels into UH and use a half volume. You went open with a half volume, that's just too hard and really unnecessary.
Open as you did and shout it, and you will go on the same direction of what he did. Or round more and still go strong. Whatever you do don't let the energy fall back from what you are doing on the lower area, go stronger.
Not oversinging the lows will also help on giving you more headroom for these notes.

No problems bro, do listen to what I've mentioned on the snare, his phrasing is really, really tied to that. (clap your hands in 4ths to it and you will understand what I meant right away).
I will surely check the Def Lepard song this weekend!

Oh I meant I can't play it properly, as in if you gave me a guitar today, and asked me to play a few songs with your band, I can't even wrap my mind around what I would need to do to prepare for it. I would not even say its being humble, I can see how I am just terribly naive on it. I've mentioned that because if you use this technique with someone that is more experienced on the instrument and can play with a good sense of flow, rhythm, etc, it really sounds great ( I will record something in this setup soon with the help of the guitarrist that works with me).
But you know what, mdew said something in the lines of begin from the basics, and I've been doing that , its part of my daily routine now to pick the guitar and study something on it for at least 30 minutes. Let's see what happens a few months from now!

Oh I meant I can't play it properly, as in if you gave me a guitar today, and asked me to play a few songs with your band, I can't even wrap my mind around what I would need to do to prepare for it. I would not even say its being humble, I can see how I am just terribly naive on it. I've mentioned that because if you use this technique with someone that is more experienced on the instrument and can play with a good sense of flow, rhythm, etc, it really sounds great ( I will record something in this setup soon with the help of the guitarrist that works with me).
But you know what, mdew said something in the lines of begin from the basics, and I've been doing that , its part of my daily routine now to pick the guitar and study something on it for at least 30 minutes. Let's see what happens a few months from now!

Hi gnee!
I think there are many things working well, and some very simple mistakes that are taking away quality.
- You are oversinging it. Listen to the original and you will notice there are a lot more pauses, right on the begining, "Here"... "I AM"... , specially on I Am, don't sustain so much. This breakes the rhythm flow of the song.
- Your phrasing is in odds with the beat. Listen to the pattern of the snare on the song, right from the start. You will notice there is an accent first on the downbeat, and then the snare accents on the upbeat. Pretty much the whole song goes by this idea. On "I AM" you are close to it, but the accent didnt work so well, when you are on "SHE is sound". You are already drifting. Its a 4/4 but its irregular, common kind of irregular, but still irregular.
These two little things make a huge difference, really!
Then the points of the higher areas. When you do "high" the Ah is sounding good, perhaps relax more if you can. The higher phrases are on the midway between going into head voice, and belting, and that's the problem. Either you open it and blast it out, or, round more the vowels into UH and use a half volume. You went open with a half volume, that's just too hard and really unnecessary.
Open as you did and shout it, and you will go on the same direction of what he did. Or round more and still go strong. Whatever you do don't let the energy fall back from what you are doing on the lower area, go stronger.
Not oversinging the lows will also help on giving you more headroom for these notes.

Hi gnee!
I think there are many things working well, and some very simple mistakes that are taking away quality.
- You are oversinging it. Listen to the original and you will notice there are a lot more pauses, right on the begining, "Here"... "I AM"... , specially on I Am, don't sustain so much. This breakes the rhythm flow of the song.
- Your phrasing is in odds with the beat. Listen to the pattern of the snare on the song, right from the start. You will notice there is an accent first on the downbeat, and then the snare accents on the upbeat. Pretty much the whole song goes by this idea. On "I AM" you are close to it, but the accent didnt work so well, when you are on "SHE is sound". You are already drifting. Its a 4/4 but its irregular, common kind of irregular, but still irregular.
These two little things make a huge difference, really!
Then the points of the higher areas. When you do "high" the Ah is sounding good, perhaps relax more if you can. The higher phrases are on the midway between going into head voice, and belting, and that's the problem. Either you open it and blast it out, or, round more the vowels into UH and use a half volume. You went open with a half volume, that's just too hard and really unnecessary.
Open as you did and shout it, and you will go on the same direction of what he did. Or round more and still go strong. Whatever you do don't let the energy fall back from what you are doing on the lower area, go stronger.
Not oversinging the lows will also help on giving you more headroom for these notes.

Here is an attempt to bring what you were doing forward so we could actually hear it, compressed the living hell out of it, multiband included to equalize the voice timbre.
https://app.box.com/files/0/f/0/1/f_70162063853
 
Its all squeezed budy, naive copy of a few maneirisms both from Bruce and Phil, you will end up hurting yourself if you continue this way. But it's the last reply, if you don't care, I am not worried either, its not my voice after all. Good luck.

I took a listen. Again volume problems. Again basic issues with melody/timing.
Again I ask: did you get the program? Are you following it and studying daily?

Another trick that is useful.
Shine (Kotzen/Mr Big) is a song that has a VERY powerful chorus on the Mr Big version, it calls out for belting the notes, but you absolutely can´t allow it to become plain shouting out.
Besides learning to control the quality so that it still assumes a "heady" quality so to say (covering simply does not work well), you can use doubling and when the sustained notes come together they create an effect that makes the end result a little bit softer on the listener (due to phase cancelation for sure). Its similar to the technique on the guitars:
https://app.box.com/s/zkjvizrrgb8xdq96ag4hud9yq7l54h9g
Unfortunately, I do not have a instrumental version of this song to do the mix, and these guitars I honestly can´t even understand, let alone play .
It works well for bridge/chorus, you must be really tight on the phrasing.

A sample of the idea I said:
Dry guitar + dry vocals:
https://app.box.com/s/gnkla8qx0blwxbc42y5rvfdjvrwdo3er
 
Mid-side processing on the guitar (same track from before was used for center), same vocals:
https://app.box.com/s/evu7b83rs41mi8hvtoatmb5sxtdzpx93
 
Of course if you do multiple layers of guitars it can sound better, but, this is way faster. There is no reverb here, and was just thrown together. If you do it more carefully, play it better, use reverb to glue it up, etc, it can give a rather nice result.

Another trick that is useful.
Shine (Kotzen/Mr Big) is a song that has a VERY powerful chorus on the Mr Big version, it calls out for belting the notes, but you absolutely can´t allow it to become plain shouting out.
Besides learning to control the quality so that it still assumes a "heady" quality so to say (covering simply does not work well), you can use doubling and when the sustained notes come together they create an effect that makes the end result a little bit softer on the listener (due to phase cancelation for sure). Its similar to the technique on the guitars:
https://app.box.com/s/zkjvizrrgb8xdq96ag4hud9yq7l54h9g
Unfortunately, I do not have a instrumental version of this song to do the mix, and these guitars I honestly can´t even understand, let alone play .
It works well for bridge/chorus, you must be really tight on the phrasing.

RIP David Bowie:
 
Great idea gsoul, keep em comming folks!

RIP David Bowie:
 
Great idea gsoul, keep em comming folks!

Simon, about why it does not sound good, besides the two aspects I told you before, which you could correct working on the verses as I also told you, you just don't have the technique to handle the higher sections. It ends up sounding like a very naive attempt, plain lack of experience.
Now, you say you trained for a year, how did you do that?
With a year of training rhythm articulation should be working fine, no matter if you have affinity with singing or not. Did you get the program like I told you on the Kiske thread? Or are you just trying to use ideas you pick on the internet on your own? The later won't lead you nowhere...
The way I see it is simple, if you like singing, you have two choices, you can train it, and as time goes by you will improve. Or not, and as time goes by you will NOT improve. But time won't stop either way.

Simon, about why it does not sound good, besides the two aspects I told you before, which you could correct working on the verses as I also told you, you just don't have the technique to handle the higher sections. It ends up sounding like a very naive attempt, plain lack of experience.
Now, you say you trained for a year, how did you do that?
With a year of training rhythm articulation should be working fine, no matter if you have affinity with singing or not. Did you get the program like I told you on the Kiske thread? Or are you just trying to use ideas you pick on the internet on your own? The later won't lead you nowhere...
The way I see it is simple, if you like singing, you have two choices, you can train it, and as time goes by you will improve. Or not, and as time goes by you will NOT improve. But time won't stop either way.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.