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  • VOCAL TRAINING PROGRAMS   17 members have voted

    1. 1. Which popular training program below that you have used before, would you recommend?


      • TVS - The Four Pillars of Singing
      • Complete Vocal Technique
      • KTVA
      • Breaking The Chains
      • Singing Success
      • Estill (EVTS)
      • Speech Level Singing
      • Other Programs Not Mentioned

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    • Yeah, I actually read the memoirs of Michael Bolton. I don't listen to his music much but he is someone to pay attention to. Quite humble. He started as a "rock singer." And after 7 albums of lousy sales and dinky little tours that went nowhere, he was working on album number eight. And his producer said, "man, if you would just record your version of "Dock of the Bay." People just love it when you do that song. So, he basically changed genres as a hail mary at the behest of his producer. And that is what created the overnight sensation of Michael Bolton, the soul singer. Later, he took opera lessons because he really likes opera and then he put out an album of arias and it spent six weeks at number one on the classical charts, something that has never been done before.
    • There was a video in one of these threads with Michael Bolton, Pavarotti and half a dozen other singers singing Nessun Dorma. what struck me was how loud Michael and Pavorotti were compared to the others.
    • some changes are predictable and somewhat acceptable....for instance becoming more mainstream as u age. or becoming more overtly slutty lol. thats tried and true.   But going from pop to opera...thats not the norm   I know Billy Joel focused on classical music for a while...and people thought maybe he had died or something
    • Evidently Changing Gears saved Michael Boltons career.  I never even heard of Blackjack but I new Bolton was into something else before he became a super star..............  
    • Bob, I just noticed your mention of "Tanking Up".  This is exactly why the advice of Clavical breath is given. The shallow breath will pretty much guarantee that you do not "Tank Up".        I had already put this post together before i noticed the quote of beginners having a tendency to "Tanking Up"      Just comparing "Double Vision" between these two. Kelly is singing 1/2 step lower than Lou but beyond that Kelly is using a sound that is more consistent with Appoggio. It has a full darker tone. More on the lines of a dampened larynx. Lou is using a sound more consistent with Placement with a higher larynx and more of a Belted edgy sound. Estill:    Belting: Belting or belt quality is a complex setup combining speech quality, twang quality, a tilted cricoid cartilage and raised larynx.[67] Twang is an important component in belt quality.[49] Gillyanne Kayes writes, 'Belting is not harmful if you are doing it right. Jo Estill has described it as "happy yelling".'[68] Belt quality also uses clavicular breathing and has the longest closed phase[69] with the highest subglottic pressure and the greatest glottic resistance.[70]   Of course I cannot find it now but CVT has also has mentioned that the high Screamy quality associated with Rock and high Twang/edge requires LESS air flow and that having too much air in the lungs is what causes problems when using this configuration. Tamplin even advises the use of Clavicular breathing when singing this style.    When taking a "belly" breath there is a tendency of of inhaling too much air.       Even in this video Teneli is pointing out that Rock vocals are not as powerful and does not need the Pressure of Classical styles. The Clavicular breath is more to insure that you DO NOT over blow the folds or put too much pressure on the vocal folds.Yes you can still use Appoggio but you also need to keep in mind not to take in too much breath.       Lou has a Brighter/lighter edgier sound than Kelly. It is my own opinion but the thing that is keeping Kelly from having the punch of Lou is that he is giving the sound and vocal folds too much fullness and weight.