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Okay, so I think im getting some bridging going here. I have NOT been training (due to life drama) but I have been doing some belting and head voice stuff at work for the last couple days. I was working on singing some Badlands and whereas usually when I hit the high notes I just flip to unconnected reinforced falsetto but today I worked on trying to keep it connected. Once I felt I was hitting a decent connected head voice note, the "bridging" was automatic. I think thats why I struggled with it before,,,,I was trying to bridge up but there was nothing to bridge TO since I wasnt used to hitting "connected" head vocie notes. Anyway, its pretty raw still. like I said, I havent been training so the onsets are iffy, volume fluctuates etc. The high C is REALLY iffy. There is some goofing off going up or down multi octaves Track and release up octave sirens GABC https://clyp.it/ceg054c2 Glottal Attack down octave sirens GABC https://clyp.it/zkqvnmqi So, technically, this is bridging, correct? lol

yeah...dunno how comfortable id be in trying to follow "formulas" to make something audience friendly. If im going to go that route id just stop playing altogether and let a computer algorithm do it all. This song was really nothing more than a personal greeting card to one girl. As long as I got in the words "Sugarboo" and "booboo" (it's hidden in there too lol) then im ok If I ever write anything resembling that Garth Brooks song, or any modern "country" song...it will be with a gun at my head and even then id probably just tell 'em to shoot

yeah, most of my stuff is going to have a modal sound for several reasons. Im sure the first music book I ever got probably showed like A,D,E7 chord progression....so I sure I thought "well, thats just the boring basics" so I automatically tried to go further and I learned sus2 and sus4 chords and learned about modes right away. Its interesting now when I write because I almost have to force myself to use something like a basic 3 chord chorus. Yet some of my fave stuff like Cheap Trick is lots of basic 3 chord stuff. Also, I tend to use a lot of odd chord voicings and open strings AND throw in chords from other keys whenever possible. Like the into to this particular song....all these weird chord voicings with open strings and sort of static vocal....hard to say what tonality the song will be in until I finally stop on the E chord indicating ill go to the key of A major But then the verse is a variation of A,G,D....major but obviously a flat 7th and again the voicings are almost never going to be just a basic A,G,D...always gonna be like A G/A, D/F# or D/A etc etc Chorus is basically A,E,D but its a Dsus chord etc. So even my stuff that one might say is "just 1,4,5" is really more like Asus2, D/A, Esus2 etc. giving a quasi modal sound anyway to a basic progression Then of course the whole bridge is minor sounding cuz I go from the A major sound to A minor. I think the chord was C/A which is just another way of saying Amin7. The second chord might have been B/A,,,cant remember Almost all of my bridges will introduce a new chord or tonality that the song didnt have. I love going from the major to the minor in the same key or vice versa one of my fave bands/singers/songs. Love it. Nice pretty 3 chord major chorus but then for the verse just harshly change to the minor lol

IMO song occupies similar space as these....major chordy but obviously not sugarplums and fairies .....except those songs were crafted by multiple people with pro production.....mine was done by one dude in one day lol

song is sitting on the fence....situation could get WAY better...or just fade off into nothingness. Its not quite total major chord happiness...then again its not quite ready to be totally morose either singer is trying to hold on to hope for the relationship, which may not work out....but also just trying to send good feelings to the person on their birthday (even if the relationship doesnt work out) Seems closer to maybe, Leo Sayer than to Rick Springfield

its not a happy "gee, we r together and in love!" song. its pretty obvious that the girl has rejected him... "I WANNA be the one" (but im not) "id love to be the one by your side" (but im not) "id like to see you on your special day " (but im not allowed etc) "youre up there and im down here" (2 hours away) "to fall in love you gotta LET it be" (dont kill it due to fears based on past failures or worries about making ends meet) "I wonder if you know what im talking about" (you KNOW you feel the chemistry too! this would be great! ) if that songs not romantic I totally give up on life lol

Hi all, been a while Here is a nice little "one day wonder" I threw together the day before a friends birthday. Im mostly just sharing it to be sharing a song...no super heavy critiques needing because I havent been singing AT ALL since January due to personal life drama (hence the song.) So there is no technique shown at all in the song lol. Just a basic beginner voice that obviously has to work around a huge vocal break. There is zero bridging happening lol. I cant complain because, as I said, I havent had the mental focus to do any practicing since like mid January Im not terribly disappointed with the singing but its nothing special either. I do despise the 3rd verse "you are the one"....you can hear that it was a struggle and needed another take. Unfortunately I knew I was pressed for time and ended up burning the midnight oil and got 2 hours of sleep before work the next day lol. Other than that some of the diction isnt super clear (partially because im from Virginia and thats how we talk lol)...assuming maybe im missing some pharyngeal resonance? Sometimes it sounds to me like im singing against a low pass filter lol..or singing while holding my nose If I were a REALLY focused and dedicated guy, id like to develop my voice into a strong old school rock type voice but also add in some of the nice soulful melismatic touches here and there. I touched on that in the bridge in this song but (obviously) I dont have it developed very much. Side note for your enjoyment. For whatever reason I was having crazy upper stomach/diaphragm cramps all day long (choked down my breakfast way too fast). I know Steely Dan said "I cried when I wrote this song" but I LITERALLY was in tears right when I got into laying down the vocal tracks. I had to lay across the bed in pain a couple times and I almost just blew the whole thing off but I HAD to finish it that day. It is what it is I guess. The drum track was programmed a few days earlier and most of the lyrics were written the day before. I say it was a "one day wonder" because when I started that morning I had no chords, no key (I was planning to do it in C but it ended up in A) and no vocal melody. So I wrote it, played guitar, bass and sang, and mixed it that same day. Unfortunately thats how I tend to work. The thought I had at the start was to go in a sort of jangly Beatles direction but it didnt really come out that way. With all that being said, here ya go. Enjoy.... https://clyp.it/2chj11qz

Thats a nice observation. Thats sort of the only way I know how to write at the moment lol. The idea is vaguely based on something like John 16:21. When you are going thru stuff it seems hard or impossible but when you come out the other side you might be so glad that you even forget the struggle. I guess the moral is...dont give up when it gets hard

very nice. I had to fight to find anything to critique. One tiny thing you might try. Work on "building" the song a bit more. The song is in 'AABA' form. Something like verse-verse-bridge-verse. So you can sit back and look at that and try to figure out what you want to do ahead of time to keep the song moving forward to the end. The bridge, just by the nature of it going to different chords and different melodies will sort of take care of itself since it already provides a nice change from the 2 verses that preceded it. So that leaves the verses to play with. As it stands you sort of did the 2nd verse as a carbon copy of the 1st verse. So in a way it DIDNT build....it just sort of cruised along...same pace, same volume, same phrasing. Try to find a few small ways to intensify that 2nd verse. Maybe a slight volume increase. Maybe pick a few words and add a little more expression on them. Maybe the words "I", "be" "sin" "cant" (or "help"). You dont have to go crazy but maybe add some extra melisma or slight inflections or whatever Like I said, on the bridge you dont have to go too nuts because its already serving its function to provide variety. The on the 3rd verse youd reach the peak of intensity...more volume, more expression, maybe find a few ways to intensify the phrasing a bit. Then use that very last repeat on the last verse to bring it all back down. Sounds like a lot but its not really. Here is the scheme: 1st verse. Nice calm intro. Nice and relaxed, smooth phrasing 2nd verse. Build it up a bit to a slight peak Bridge. The bridge takes people to a different place. The intensity can actually back off a bit to set people up for hitting them hard on that last verse. 3rd verse. The payoff. The peak. Hit 'em hard and then at the end bring 'em back down gently And im not talking about wild intensity swings here, since the song is a pretty calm song in the first place....more like a small but definite up and down build of emotion etc So really I cant critique the singing itself, but you can plan ahead a bit to form a strategy to draw the people in and move them a bit more WITH the singing skills. -------------- The only itsy bitsy nitpicking singing thing I noticed was on the first verse, maybe you could have held the words "say" and "'in" a bit longer. And then on both verses, the last word "you" could be held a bit longer or softy faded out a bit longer. Sort of going by the Elvis version he held those 2 "you"s almost until the next word started (of course you have to get a breath in). On your version there is that slight gap after each 'you' Other than that, great job! WAY better than I could do lol

This is another "model" song for me...with that similar drum feel...and some nasty vocal harmonies etc. This is what I was trying to get the drummer to do. Basically take the hypnotic dead straight beat for 8 bars or whatever, then alternate it with a syncopated pattern....and just do that back and forth. Makes the writing way easier IMO

fair comments. I agree on it being somehow not centered, or a bit pitchy going into the chorus one thing to remember (since several people commented)....this is essentially about a 50% finished demo. No bass gtr, no lead guitar, no vocal adlibs, only 1 tiny harmony on one line thats turned WAY down in the mix Its just something with a bare vocal to get feedback on the singing. Even as it sits right now it could easily be built up with ad lib vocal fills, guitar solos/licks, strings etc, reversed stuff etc. One thing about the track, the drums are essentially 4 minutes of the same pattern with a ride cymbal thrown in here an there....so the song was destined to be repetitive....or hopefully hypnotic. I kept trying to get dude to put some drums online with like 2 patterns back and forth so it would be a pattern like in this song but then it would have a "B" section with a different more syncopated drum feel....that would make the songwriting a snap. Alas I could never get him to do exactly that The dude named the original drum track "Robotic Haze." I cut it from like 7 minutes down to 4 http://www.wikiloops.com/backingtrack-jam-41083.php here is the original song I wrote with a different chorus that everyone told me was too much of a "kashmir" ripoff lol. http://www.wikiloops.com/backingtrack-jam-41085.php This is a similar feel, with more variation built in

yeah, there's a very light growl or whatever on there. It wasnt really very intentional. In other words I was just trying to sing pretty straight without consciously adding much rasp etc. Pretty sure my voice started getting tired too. Probably the last few choruses started to sound more ragged lol Listening to that Hatchet clip. DJB is going for WAYYYY more growl etc than I was. Mine sounds like a 12 yr old choirboy next to his

I have no clue where ya'll are hearing ANY Danny Joe Brown in this track lol. Generally the song should have had some lead guitar but I wanted to put it online that night. If anything I might have taken the last couple choruses and sang only the first line of the chorus and then answered with a guitar lick. "And in the morning light"-----guitar lick etc

I was thinking more long the lines of the low, smokey verse sound...almost half speaking/singing. I didnt quite get it this time but im going to try to cultivate it

I definitely like the Skynyrd-38Special-ARS-M Hatchet vibe...being that im southern. Then again I dont fish, hunt, or drink lol. Love the line from the song 'Flirtin with Disaster'......."got our sights set straight ahead but I aint sure what were after"

I said I was "trying to go for" a Coverdale vibe lol. I have to get a lot more thick low resonance...but I will eventually Never used de-esser b4....half the time I was getting the B in, other times I wasnt Believe it or not, the line "sun is so bright" reminds me of Rob Halford, like an octave down....maybe from the song "Invader"? or something back in the 70s Priest vibe. lol Not too sure about M Hatchet vibe...didnt Danny Joe Brown sing thru his nose? Ive sort of determined that im not using much pharyngeal sound at all because 1) I dont feel any resonance in the "mask"and 2) I can hold my nose and it generally doesnt change the sound at all lol

An original song called "Morning Light" https://clyp.it/0cmkoubr No heavy technical reviews needed (unless you're bored lol.) To me the word "morning" sounds flat or otherwise weirdish. Lemme know what you think. I realize the "B" in the word "bright" isnt coming out every time. I was trying to go for a slightly David Coverdale vibe on the verses. The chord at 3:03 is pretty close to Jimmy Page The intro scat thing was just done off the cuff. I was going to put guitar solos in but didnt have time. (Edit: note to self. NEVER write a song with this many chorus repeats unless cash is involved lol....waaaayyyy too much work) Ive had this music sitting around for about 6 months. Wrote and sung the vox today. No bass guitar on the recording Enjoy, JJ

obviously you are a good singer one small comment "Into the flood again" 1) sounds like you are saying "foot" instead of flood? 2) Im no expert on vowels but when he says the "in" from "into" it sounds more like he is saying "aauhnd" where you are saying "hin"

Well I had seen where KillerKu had referred to you as a chest puller in another thread so I am just trying to get perspective on these terms and what the different sounds are etc. (im just learning all the terminology lol) You got some other stuff posted where you are doing some strong chest pulling? or bridging? btw, I never heard that particular T Rex song b4,but it immediately reminded me of the verse from this classic....same feel

Was this song head voice though?

you got guts to try to cover that one lol. I cant comment too much on the vocal quality but I will say that at certain points (chorus) you seemed to be a little bit behind the beat

nice. So for all us newbs, thats all M1, correct?