JonJon

Yeah, I throw on a preset compressor to all my takes.  I don't have any sophisticated grasp on dialing it in to fit the mix though.  

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

you dont have to "quit" something just because it doesnt come easily and you dont have to quit just because you wont be a star overnight. Sometimes you just have to take your time and look into it a little bit
ANYONE can sing to one degree or another and maybe you are just missing something basic like decent breathing or something similar?
 
Many people told me I cant sing or play guitar etc....but I cant quit because I suck at gaming too...so im stuck.

There is a lot of unheared sang shit you can hear on the radio that is complete trash
But I actully like this song as it reminds me of something from radiohead, the verb and keen
I get the impresion that there are a lot of as good as amature semi pros out there that are as good as the premiership top of the pops singers that you will never hear of because of marketing bullshit

Hi MDew, I thought you've come a long way developing your sound man. I liked your tone throughout the song, except at the bridge, where it sounds like you lost focus. I think you are on the right track with your voice, and with more practice you'll make this song sound really good. I kind of agree with some folks here who say that you might benefit of using support in a better way, so you would be able to stabilize the voice. Even though I don't think that you will sound beefy with more engaged support, as I believe it is just a matter of vocal placement, but I think JonJon made an interesting suggestion of trying to sing/emulate Dickinson or Dio to get a different sound. I think it would be safe and beneficial to you to experiment, as you already know you should not yell to achieve these types of sound. Cheers

Tony Rice was born in my hometown lol. (though he moved away as an infant)      He did a show here a few years back. he was still getting it pretty good.
 
I gotta say it....you reference your childhood and your perception of families expectations or feedback they gave you or whatever. at some point though, as regards singing, you need to let all of that go
Im only reading between the lines because I dont know your background that well.
Im gathering that you are saying that you came up with a strong bluegrass background, or other traditional "mountain" vocal style. But now you want to get into more traditional, middle of the road rock type sounds
 
In that case maybe youd be better off to actually try to OVERCORRECT a bit.  For instance maybe actually go for a real Dio sound. A really heavy compressed, super supported sound. Or maybe even a Bruce Dickinson tone, which can be a heavy covered sound.
Those sounds are OPPOSITE of what you have now. and you may never actually reach those sounds....but in doing so, you'll probably end up dead in the middle with a good basic rock tone
 
its kind of like if you have $50 and want to become a millionaire. Whats the best way? Well a good way is to aim to make $10 million...then even if you only get halfway there you easily reached the 1 million lol
sometimes it better to make a radical mind shift as opposed to inching along
 
Peace, JJ

Tony Rice was born in my hometown lol. (though he moved away as an infant)      He did a show here a few years back. he was still getting it pretty good.
 
I gotta say it....you reference your childhood and your perception of families expectations or feedback they gave you or whatever. at some point though, as regards singing, you need to let all of that go
Im only reading between the lines because I dont know your background that well.
Im gathering that you are saying that you came up with a strong bluegrass background, or other traditional "mountain" vocal style. But now you want to get into more traditional, middle of the road rock type sounds
 
In that case maybe youd be better off to actually try to OVERCORRECT a bit.  For instance maybe actually go for a real Dio sound. A really heavy compressed, super supported sound. Or maybe even a Bruce Dickinson tone, which can be a heavy covered sound.
Those sounds are OPPOSITE of what you have now. and you may never actually reach those sounds....but in doing so, you'll probably end up dead in the middle with a good basic rock tone
 
its kind of like if you have $50 and want to become a millionaire. Whats the best way? Well a good way is to aim to make $10 million...then even if you only get halfway there you easily reached the 1 million lol
sometimes it better to make a radical mind shift as opposed to inching along
 
Peace, JJ

MDEW,
I like your voice! Your sound colors on this track fit the genre really well!  Cool of you to share your talent with us! Good song selection for your voice also. I could see you singing (as far as "covers" go) a few artists really well with this style of singing. i.e. John Prine, Dylan (as Mr. Lunte suggested), Arlo Guthrie, Jackson Browne, maybe Neil Young for some M2 challenges.
I would say, maybe if your appaggio was a bit more strong we could hear you sustain some more notes and let that cool, sweet vocal texture you have (rasp included) resonate a little longer! At the end of the song (about min. 3:00) you begin to retard and your singing sounds considerably more supported there! Well Done!

The Shadow of the Wicker Man is rising up again!!
 

haha. Nice cover and song choice.    Im tempted myself to do Harry Chapin's 'Changes'
 
That song has such a sad story behind it. Croce had plunked around, struggling singing at coffee houses etc. He quit that and drove trucks etc for a while. Thru late 72/early 73 he had some success and toured some etc
He finished recording his album "I got a Name" in Sept '73 and a week later died in a plane crash, after a concert, the day before the song "I got a name" was released.
He had written a letter to his wife saying he had decided to give up music and settle down more with her and his young child and that he would write short stories and movie scripts. The letter arrived after his death
Dude was only 30

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Whitesnake cover!

love to hear you on some nice power ballads...similar to these maybe
 
 

Will take a look at those for sure! I fixed the peak in the original mix and the timing towards the end and updated the file.

love to hear you on some nice power ballads...similar to these maybe
 
 

Reaper all the way
 
I understand audacity gives u the ability to remove vocals from tracks etc   http://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_vocal_removal_and_isolation.html

Can you sustain the notes cleanly for some seconds?  I ask because as i understand you are doing this as training. If you have some bad habits singing clean, it will be more difficult to drop them while singing with distortion. So check that out  other that that, good job, ill justo work on going through the phrases slowly and sustaining every vowel for 3-4 seconds.

Wow that's pretty good

Some quicky vocals from tonight's training session...working on A4 and B4
I just sang against the actual song so it was a little hard to hear the rhythm track etc etc
 
Phrases from Rainbow "I surrender", Deep Purple "Mistreated", Badlands "Seasons", Soundgarden "Rusty Cage"
 
Its mostly A4 stuff except the Badlands is B4. That Badlands phrase "I know its too late" is the phrase I found my headvoice on about 6-8 weeks ago
 
enjoy, comment if u want to. Essentially I have about 4 decent days of training behind me now lol. Even that slight amount seems to be helping..so hopefully things well trend better for quite some time now
 
Dry vocal https://clyp.it/xzn2jbpi
Some light processing https://clyp.it/hiia2oqg