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Man! Your voice has a very similar timbre to Steve on the higher range, it sounds very smooth and creamy, while having the brightness of the twang. The only thing I would tell you, is that on the first two phrases "lights" and "go" where a bit flat. This is probably because you did the small scoop up from a slightly "darker" vowel in lights, and you started "go" with the same setup. I think if you twanged the AH/UH of "lights" and "go" a bit more it would be easier, and you would be spot on with the pitch On "sun" it happens the same but it is almost imperceptible, but "shines" is very good, as it is a "flatter" AH, a bit brighter.( I like to use imagery like this with my vowels haha "flat" as in the back of the throat and mouth more flat. Two dimensional... well, sorry for the rambling, haha ) Now, all that is nitpicking really, because I know you'd like to sing this material as perfect as you can. The complete performance was cool, I liked it a lot, man. Keep training and uploading stuff !

Thanks, Jens !! Would you change something? Some vowel or interpretative choice? haha

Hey all I wanted to show you the first attempt of Eye of the Tiger I've done in a while. I want to study this song and master it, I'd really like to have it as repertoire. Thanks in advance for any comments

Musikman! What an awesome band! I had no idea they existed I liked a lot the music, the atmosferic vibe they have, while still being powerful. The vocalist is just superb \m/ I will probably try to learn their material, I feel the singing style could fit my voice ( I may be wrong, lol ) Thanks, man !

Man, yo've progressed a lot I like how you sang this song. Also, I agree with Robert on the vowels EDIT: Sorry for the shortness, hahah, I don't have much time now, I will give you more insight when I can :3

Thanks you so much guys for the input!! It was incredibly helpful We are going for a crazy sound. Dynamics, changes, we really want the music to be in service of the feeling. We're thinking about adding a couple of growls in there. We are inspired mostly by Karnivool, Tool, Pain of Salvation, but we have very different influences. The guy who is making the music is more metalcore, while the other guitarrist likes minimalistic atmosferic stuff. And I'm actually looking for a bassist that has a good sense for funky rythms ( Like Pain of Salvation does in some songs ) This is a very raw and early version of it, the instrumental was recorded with one guitar, digital bass and EZdrummer. And the voice with a cheap $50 dollar USB mic, lol. Also, the song is not finished yet, it'll probably be a long song. Now, related to pitch. Yes, it is VERY pitchy . So indeed, I have to study this song a lot. I sometimes forget what the notes were actually, as I don't hear the MIDI often ( my bad ). So yes, thank you very much for making me see that I've been a bit lazy on that side :S Now as far as interpretation goes, first these are the lyrics, they are in spanish. The idea of the song is, that the guy who's singing, wants to do something he really loves badly... ( music ), but he has the pressure of his family that tell him he won't be any good and will fail. They want him to study something "real": No cambias nada You don't change anything /this verse is the parents speaking to Cargando el mar bajo la piel Carrying the water beneath your skin him, telling him that his dreams Cae la emboscada The ambush comes down ( or drops, idk) won't be any good, and he'll fail Ya ves, tu almohada no va a florecer You see, your pillow won't blossom better follow the masses Puedo saborear mi inconciencia I can savour my unconsciousness / this is him, confused, struggling, not Ocultar mi error Hide my mistake knowing what to feel or do No escondas que es Don't hide it is / this is him talking to his parents el miedo el que te impide ser fear that prevents you from being realizing that they're afraid of No permitiré I won't let chasing their dreams, el veneno me afecte también The poison affect me too which stops them from feeling complete. He doesn't want it to happen to him too. No dejaré que I won't let it /This one is more literal, lol infecte mi voz infect my voice no detendrá it won't stop mi sangre, la pasión my blood, the passion Chorus Llevo las marcas en mi piel I have the marks on my skin / the chorus is him, again travelling through Palabras vacías, en gozo y agonía. Empty words, in joy and agony his emotions. Un lamento A lament Carrying the mark of the "followers". se pierde en la ciudad Is lost in the city Crying for freedom ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My idea is to sing it a lot more powerful, I'm training a lot to achieve the sound I want ( I've been only studying a year and a half only so I have a lot ahead ) But my voice works for what I need it for now. The line in 2:52 was just a placeholder, though. I don't know if we'll have lyrics in there or what. I like it the way it is though, but recorded with better quality, lol I need to work in some vowels. The higher part in " Ocultar mi error", I think is too narrow. Probably we'll have to change the word to make it more open, because in spanish we don't usually modify vowels as badly as you can do in english ( :ehem: "I'm looking at you James LaBrie, lol" ) Are there more vowels you think could be better? Thanks again for all the comments, guys!! You are awesome !! EDIT : This is how it sounds without the high part in the chorus https://app.box.com/s/ld5j1l76y9hdsx8ohk4wjzd4zx6j8sjj

Hey all! I've been working with my new band on this song. Our first one, haha. I've done the vocal lines and lyrics ( If someone would like the lyrics I can provide them They're in spanish ) I'm asking, though, only about the singing, not the composition itself, please. I want to avoid external influence in that regard because I really feel that if people likes it, it must be something made 100% by us, haha. Singing I accept, because I have suuuuch a long road ahead x.x I'd like to know if you like the background high melody on the chorus part 1:48 ( It's too loud in the mix, but even though, I personally would take it out ) https://app.box.com/s/646d74uugn320bwbzvk3cj5aryc6u5r7

Thanks, Olem! I've had a few hiccups along the way haha But I just love training, so I wouldn't leave it anyway.

I like your voice a lot, man haha It sounds kind of Andi Deris on the lower-mid range, and sounds like Kai hansen on the upper range, Very cool mixture haha I really enjoyed this version, and I don't really think it is necessary for you to shed that much weight, man, if you can sing like this for an hour and a half with no problems, I guess there's nothing wrong. If you are really digging the lighter timbre, then yes, but I actually think it sounds pretty cool as it is, gives you more character I guess.

The belting onsents sound really well, man. Do you feel like you are in mix there? or just head? It's kind of hard to hear well the quality of the voice because of the recording :C EDIT: I heard Wisdom of the Kings and there it is more noticeable. You tend to do heavy phonations in chest AND in head, but you are not mixing as you could. As I already said in a post I deleted haha Send me an inbox with your Skype address or something and we can have a chat about technique

Oh!! Totally my bad! I had Edu's voice in my head, but mixed the names haha This is the short version of the song, isn't it? Get the long one if you can, the one with the "woo, hooo! minutes go round and round inside my heead! " . That to me is the coolest part of the song, lol Can you do higher notes? If you siren down>up, can you get into your headvoice smoothly? And top down?

Thanks, Musik!! I really want to nail this song in the future, haha It's an awesome addition to one's repertoire By the way, what kind of music to do listen to?

Here's what I did today I think it's muuch better than the last one, the lower notes sound more relaxed, and overall adduction is more stable. https://app.box.com/s/ghew3g8gl9fwaldkktuopozxpq68i92p I hope to record the last part soon, haha, I didn't have time.

Thanks for the input, Java!! Yeah, in a lot of places it sounds constricted, mostly because I'm not used to sing that low, and I haven't trained to relax in there and open while keeping the compression Work in progress, though :B Thanks for the idea in "sobriety" I tried that early in the morning when I recorded again. I actually forget sometimes that I can modify vowels in lower ranges haha I'm not currently in my place, once I get home I'll take the best shots and post them, I think they sound much better Thanks about Forever and One... btw how did you all find the mix of that track? It seems to me that in the last chorus, the voice is kind of lost because the music's louder... That was a pretty good vocal day, so I feel like I shouldn't take all the credit haha I'm training a lot to be able to sing songs like F&O in a consistent way. It's one of those songs that I can sing just one time and that's it, then just warm down and rest. ( It's not like I end up swollen or something hahah It's just that it's a good enough workout on top of other songs I may sing, my scales and stuff )

Hey!! I liked it a lot. Your timbre is pretty similar to André. I suggest try to play around adding a bit more twang. More "half smile" haha, that will probably give you an easier time navigating the upper part of your chest voice. As for the pitchyness, yeah, it was very pitchy. But if you are working on it, then I will not say anything about it Make sure you listen closely and remember what he is doing and also the MUSIC . Train to remember where in your voice it is too. This way when you sing acapella you already know in your ear what music it is, so you have a note to sing over, and by remembering the exact note you need to do physically, you don't look around and search for the note you want. ( I don't know if this is what's happening to you, though, it could only be your ear, or viceversa. You could know the music perfectly in your mind and your throat not responding as you'd like... so check that ) Other than that... cheers mate! Keep singing Angra, it suits your voice I think

Thank you very much, Musikman ! It's very encouraging to hear those words. Not everybody in everyday life supports a "cat screamer" haha I've been training seriously for a year and a half now, so I still have a long road ahead! And I'm enjoying the journey so much also haha

Thanks, Musikman! Indeed those notes are generally my lowest, it's hard to sing there. I recorded the song because that morning I woke up and felt so low and relaxed that I thought it would be fun to give it a try. hahah . In fact, although I made a few mistakes while recording, I had to live with them, because if I did too many takes, my voice would have warmed up and lost that lowest note, lol I'm really glad you liked it, it's a tough song and a very dear one to me. I hope you like the Helloween cover! I don't have neither all the chest yet to sing it like Andi Deris, and I don't know how to use distorsion for now... but I did my best with my current tools

Hey all! As a couple of months ago I told you, I am currently recovering from a nasty episode of GERD, and my voice has never felt as before. BUT, nothing will defeat my love for singing, so I've been training the hell out of my voice. I remember some time ago Felipe posted a cover of this song and it was so cool that I thought I'd tackle it sometime as a challenge. I spent like 6 hours editing and mixing, haha, so I hope you like it guys. And as a bonus, I'd also like to leave Abandoned by Kamelot . It is a very difficult song, but for totally different reasons than the other one. EDIT: Someone knows how to make it an embed :c ? In Forever and One, I mostly focus on vowel modifications. I try to keep the vowels as open as I can while curbing a lot, which leaves me vowels like AE, EH+EE and shades of UH all over the place. If you notice, almost all the more closed EH's around and above my passagio have a bit of EE, as it's pretty natural to me and it feels pretty comfortable In Abandoned, I focused mainly on the interpretation. Using a lot of dynamics, vibrato, and Roy Khan-ish stuff, haha. I will never have his voice, but I love how he interprets this kind of stuff. I hope you like it guys, and any opinion or suggestion you have I'd really appreciate it!

Ah, I forgot to mention... keep in mind that those excercises where the ones that helped me find the feelings I needed to mix and match muscles inside my throat. Those helped me discover my "mixed" voice. I don't train that way now, I train chest and head voice isolated, and then do sirens up and down full out throughout my range. I just found that doing those for training don't work so well on me, progress was too slow compared to other stuff.

Well, the strength in your vocal muscles is already there. You certainly have a LOT more strength than when I started finding my mix, so I really think it is an issue of coordination and control rather than weakness. Could you please post a clip of your speaking voice? Or singing something in your lower register? It would help a lot. I recorded these yesterday to demostrate what I meant with the excercises I described. Keep in mind that my voice is also a work in progress ( I've been studying singing for a year and a half now ) so muscularly I am not great.. but the execution, the quality of the excercise is what I meant to ilustrate. https://app.box.com/s/d1srmr0a082a66rgxt6nkfnbpt4nd6xf My chest voice was quite weak when I started, so I had to play around a lot with my voice to find the feeling of compression and "meat" haha This sounds can help you find that ---> https://app.box.com/s/cc05v9bofh5p1foto92pbxvgvoaxwntj Those ones I did with my mouth open very wide, vertically, and sticking my tongue out. The tongue out endorses closure. I hope I am of help If any other singer or coach can give you their advice it would be cool. It's always great to have a lot of diferent opinions and means of achieving a goal.

Muscularly you can get a mix right now with the right coordination, what you need to find to "not sound so disgusting" is to train the control over your cords ( for sound) and over your resonators ( for tone ). Doing excersices, whiny or dopey, will not change the sound of your voice, it is only an excercise. So if you can get results doing whiney stuff, just do it The tone/timbre can be changed by adjusting your resonators ( your palate, mouth, the pharynx, etc)

Like the other guys said, I would say a tenor because of the weight of your voice. Although it doesn't really matter in popular singing, your range can go up as high as you can, fachs are more of a colour thing. With your voice you could sing anything you want, man. You have strong headvoice it seems, and your chest will only get stronger. If you want to sing R&B, it will suit you, if you wanted to sing metal, probably you'd have to train the style ( idk if you are a metal listener ) distorsion or whatever you want to use. If you want to sing opera, you need to train that. Just go with whatever you want to do

Well, what you want to do is to keep your speaking voice active WHILE using this voice. Call it falsetto or headvoice, or M2. What I did to find my mix ( a commonly used term for what you want to achieve ) was exercises like "buh, buh, buh" or "muh, muh, muh" on an octave, trying to keep a Patrick Star kind of voice. Or doing those scales feeling like you want to hold smoke in your lungs, or like you're stoned. This will naturally keep your larynx down The other is the extreme, is a whiny voice, like "nya, nya, nya" or "nye" ( with an EH, sound not an EE ).. this is the opposite, and will keep your larynx up, but will encourage the activation of your "chest" muscles. You can also try to mess around with your tongue out and your mouth open as wide as you can, downwards, not horizontally. This mix, will be always easier and safer to achieve if you keep your diaphragm low, feeling like you are still inhaling while making a sound, and try not to expel more air than you need. I'm not an expert in singing, at all... but these are the things that have helped me. I hope it helps you, mate.

Thanks! Yeah, the idea is to finally achieve a belty sound over all my range, haha, but for now I have to go with what doesn't hurt. My voice naturally tends to release closure, so I have to always actively think of connecting, my voice is not used to weight. After all my problems my voice kind of lowered a whole step ( I like to use modes so ), like... my Overdrive is not as metallic and sounds more like curbing, and my curbing sounds kind of like neutral :/ Also all depends on the range, there are some parts that feel weaker than others, which wasn't an issue before. Most of the time when I sing around or higher than my second bridge (B4-C5), although it may sound falsetto-ish, in fact I am using the effort and energy of a heavier sound, haha, I need to be careful about that, because my folds feel really thin up there. I hope as I keep gaining strength the sounds will get more and more meaty. Thanks again for the input guys.

Thanks for the input, Olem. I will! haha