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MDEW

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  1. Thanks everyone, I still have come a long way from about a year ago. If you listen some of those other songs on soundcloud you can hear the difference. As Toolless mentioned I have a version of this that was recorded about 3-6 months ago(Time goes by so quick now). Even on that recording I was stronger (vocal pressure wise) than songs before that. I have one of Journey that I used another voice also "Fake" according to my previous ideas but people seemed to like better than my "Natural" delivery. I have I feeling that what I refer to a my "Old Man" voice is what you mean my Sub-glottal pressure. A thing not heard but maybe present in "Folk" music. I came from a time and place that listening to Eagles, Aerosmith and Bad Company labeled you as a reprobate and a rebel. The other choice was BlueGrass and Country Gospel,(Think Carter Family, Flat and Scruggs, Jim and Jesse). Tony Rice would have been considered Rock and Roll. If you do not know who any of those are look them up and you may understand. So I will try this again, and we will see if I can get on the right track. Thank you for your feedback.
  2. Thanks Robert, Gsoul. This was just a quick recording. Odd thing is that While singing this it sounded way deeper and less like my normal singing. After listening to it there was not much of a noticeable difference other than a more solid tone.
  3. This is just a quick recording, Using what I call "Fake" voice. I am playing with a little rasp. While growing up and singing with relatives they would condemn me for NOT using "MY NATURAL" voice. So I got stuck thinking to "Fake it" was a wrong thing to do. I think that some of this is on the right path to "Singing" rather than what I was doing before and thinking that I was "Singing" using my "Natural" voice. So if you would .......... Point out what is "Right" rather than just saying it sucks and I need more lessons. Thanks.
  4. Xamedhi has a good point. Perhaps in your case lightening up would be a better strategy. Jonjon, you mentioned before that even some of those who took lessons still suck. That is true. Singing is as much about dynamics and choices as anything else. If everything is full blown belting then there is no dynamics. Whereas I may have too little air, you may be using too much. Meaning that your filling the lungs too much thinking that you need more power and you need more strength to hold things together. With too much air in the lungs the vocal folds have to hold tighter to keep from blowing apart. Part of the "Lift up and pull back" thing is to take the pressure off and reduce mass of the vocal folds
  5. One or two phrases out of context will not show anything. A complete song does not have to be a full blown production. Not when when the goal is working on the voice. Background guitar with basic rhythm will suffice. Still your tone is beyond most of those who seek "Tips or Strategies, Techniques and stuff" and the best advice I can give is to sing more "FULL" songs. At this point what you need more is to manage how to deal with the flow of lyrics along with your tone. To deal with that, tackle songs that have already been established.
  6. Perhaps that is exactly what I needed to hear. People mention support more. Most of the time when support is mentioned the phrase "Cut Back The Air" is mentioned. Or tighten up the diaphragm, control air flow. Which is what I was doing. My recording time ends up between 11:00 pm and 2:00 am while others are sleeping. So getting loud is out of the question.
  7. Already sounds pretty good to me. Why not go ahead and put together some kind of cover just to see how it sounds. It would not have to be anything super hard to sing. Sure people get stuck on stupid things like "You do not sound like DIO, or Perry or whatever" The point is whether it sound good with your voice the way it is, and does it feel good to sing this way. And as for the other subject that always comes up. You sound pretty friggin' polished as it is. It is NOT this way for most singers, especially the ones who end up here. And for people stopping in here to give you tips and pointers or props......... Have you even listened to one of my songs that I posted here? If you have you did not comment. Good or Bad. I look for feedback also.
  8. Great Job Bzean and Gsoul. I was working on a Glenn Fry song and may upload it later. Too much thought going into it. This is more the way I work. Remember a song, look up Lyrics and chords and just record it. The melody may be a little off and there is no embellishment. Just my way of interpreting the story. Here is one for Merle.
  9. Good song Javastorm, Write more songs. For a first attempt at writing you did great. Song writers need only worry about lyrics melody and basic chord progression. Sure if you plan on releasing this yourself and playing all instuments and such, then maybe thoughts on percussion and musical composition, points and counterpoints should be considered. BUT, most of the time drum patterns, bass lines and background embellishments are left to the studio musicians. They are given a chord sheet and a tempo. They do not get the whole composition writen for them. They use their own discretion and their sense of musicality. If things do not go as expected they are then given a basic direction. Do not stop writing because someone thinks that it should have drums or bass lines or other embelishments. The original composition is basic. Chord pattern, tempo and melody and lyrics. Write songs, Let the arrangers worry about where to put a snare tap and a cymbol crash or maybe more cowbell. Let your Guitar and voice provide the tempo, intensity and mood. You did a good job.
  10. A town/city/country based song sounds pretty cool. Ex. Philidelphia Freedom, Sweet Home Alabama, New York New York, Kansas City Here I come...............................Got a wife and kids in Baltimore Jack (closest big city to me)............
  11. I was playing in a local band, we played at a graduation party, mostly family members of the graduates, I sang with an acoustic while the drummer was setting up and the rest of the equipment was put inplace. The audience just stared at me. I sang like 6 songs. Not a peep. When I walked off the stage many people pulled me aside and said they loved what I did. I just stared back and said "Why couldn't you show me that while I was up on stage feeling like a fool?". Sometimes you just get a tough crowd.
  12. Thanks for listening Collin, I kind of like Randy Newman. It could be worse and I could sound like Tom Petty. Part of my issue is tone, The funny thing about tone issues is that you have to sound like someone and sometimes it is what it is, a matter of physical make up or it is about coordinations and resonance. What if I find out that i have everything balanced and I still sound like Randy? Or are just meaning the style of singing? A talky singy thing? This was first draft just getting an idea of how to approach the song and to have something to contribute to the BeeGees Challenge.
  13. Thanks Killer, This is the first chance I had to listen to your tips. I am going to try this later on. I don't think that Barry even sang that as high as you got in your example. He just sounds like he got high because of his timbre and singing light. Some of the background harmonies may have reached that high.
  14. Thanks Ronws, I always appreciate your honesty and advice. I don't think I will ever get those southern vowels totally cleaned up. Weird thing is that southerners think I have a northern accent and those above the Mason-Dixon line think I have a southern accent. Truth is around here you can almost tell what street someone lives on because of the differences in accent.
  15. This is the same range/Key as Berry. One thing I am finding out is that some singers will sound higher because of the overtones.One of my problems is/was trying to match the tone of other singers and I would allow my Larynx to rise. Realizing that I am not going to have the same tone has allowed me to find a better larynx position. That one time that I found complete vocal freedom was when BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nothin Yet" came on the Radio and I found that I was squeezing and raising the larynx to get his sound. I shifted to a softer yet deeper tone and things fell into place. I was singing along to Aretha, High harmonies of Beach Boys, Aerosmith and even singing with a higher octave on other songs. It was unfortunate that the phone rang while I was in this state. I lost the feeling and coordination and have been trying to get it back ever since.
  16. Thanks Aravindmadis, Good tips on the Falsetto, I had been singing that stronger but kept missing the high note and finally just sang soft just so I could make the note. I was also missing the lowest note and slid into it once I started singing.
  17. I submitted this in the Challenge for BeeGees. It is late. I am tired, but wanted to post something. Be kind, this is a work in progress and a little to laid back to be effective
  18. This is just a draft. It is late I am tired and it is what it is. I just wanted to give proof that I am working on something. Be kind give tips................ Thanks.
  19. The whole vowel modification thing is finding a throat shape that works for you. Have you ever listened to Bon Scott on early AC/DC? Did you wonder why you cannot understand a thing that he was singing? it was not because he was singing with marbles in his mouth, it was because that is the throat shape that allows him to sing that high. The proper UH for you may be something that does not even sound like UH. A fine example of Vowel modification is Adele Listen to her speak and then listen to her sing. There are many Videos of her performing live. I use her as an example because of the BIG difference between her speaking voice and her singing voice.
  20. The whole problem is that even if someone where to say Jon, Drop your jaw a little more, cut back the air and sing UH instead of Oh. It still may not work because your perception of UH may be different, The jaw may still not drop enough, The throat shape may still be off and you still may not be getting enough closure or twang even though you think you are and the so called expert would still be wrong and a quack even though he gave the answer. It does not work until YOU find it through Guidance and experimentation but YOU still need to experience it before it works. So many things about singing are confusing and seem backward until you experience it and THEN you end up saying "OH, Thats what that jerk was talking about".
  21. And knowing this, why would any of the "So called Experts" respond in the first place? You already have your answer. You gave it yourself. Vowel modification and you are not strong enough yet. And it is not Strength in musculature, it is strength in coordination that takes practice and honing in on your own physical make up. C5 is normally in another place of passage just like E4 to G4 where you used to just flip and go into falsetto. The same rules apply here at C5. I am no expert and never claimed to be. I am learning and training like every one else. And when someone asks a question or is trying to make a point the terms become important to give and receive a proper responce. By the way the answer depends on how big the angels are and how big of a pin they are dancing on. I do not know if the material the pin is made out of makes a difference in this universe but in another universe it may.
  22. Jeremy, Souded pretty good man. I would keep this in a list of songs to play out for a one man show. If you haven't already, MAKE that list and practice the songs often so you can just grab a guitar, keyboard or whatever and sing when the opportunity strikes. Killer, Good to see you back. I have been wondering about you. You should also keep that in a list. It is one of the songs I was going to record for this Challenge. I have sat down at the recorder several times over the past few months to record for this challenge and each time was struck by either Red Light syndrome or interuptions. I still plan for a recording but do not know when I will be able to. Until then I hope others will continue to post songs here. Looking forward to hearing more. G, You still out there? I have not seen a post from you for awhile. Do not give up on us. These challenges are still a good idea. It is getting the time that is a problem.
  23. Sure beats "All about that Bass" and "Let,me holla', Let me holla', Wanna Holla' at you', Let me holla' at you, Come on and Holla' " Real song. Made it to the big time. Those are the only words. ......... Kinda makes ya sick doesn't it? I like your Lyrics pretty cool Keep up the good work. Words are not that hard to write, Jewel wrote about her morning routine and putting her Makeup on, Alanis Morissette wrote about having her hand in her pocket. Even I sometimes have a cool day to write about.
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